Ken Loach ("Bread and
Roses"), a slight soft spoken man, young
looking for his age, casually dressed and very
relaxed, sits ready to talk with us. He's soft
spoken, often taking time to think before answering,
removing his glasses and squinting his eyes in
consideration.
PRESS: Do you feel a sense of
betrayal with the Labor unions.
KL: Well it's more complicated than that.
The rule has been tensions in the Labor movement
between one perspective and another. The
social-democrat method is the dominant one. That you
can make the system work in the interests of everyone
and the crumbs that fall from the table will be
enough. And there's another perspective that says
you've got to turn the table over all together. Which
is the one that I support. But that's not been the
dominant politics of the Labor Party. But I can get
told off for talking politics (chuckles).
PRESS: What about Martin in
"Sweet Sixteen."
KL: Right when you meet him there's a
brightness and optimism about him. In the week before
he got contacted to play a part in the film he was
offered ...ah, he became a professional footballer
with the local team. He carried on being a footballer
throughout the film. And then he couldn't sustain the
training, because he was doing things, acting things.
And he gave up being a footballer. But I think he'd
sooner been a footballer than an actor.
PRESS: He's been sucked into
acting?
KL: Yes. I'm not sure it's a good idea.
PRESS: Tell us what it's like
working with untrained actors.
KL: It's the same whether they're
experienced or not. In fact it's very simple. Shoot
in sequence so that the story unfolds as you're
shooting. And just try to enable them to be as good
as they can be. Just make it seem as naturally as
possible. The most creative part of filmmaking is the
writer's working. ... The directing part is simply to
bring life to that. So that you have the sense of
something spontaneous and combustible happen in front
of you.
PRESS: Why don't you make a
movie in Hollywood?
KL: Why should I? I made one film in LA. It
was the most difficult place to make a film I've ever
worked in. I mean, it was easier in Nicaragua.
PRESS: Are there any other US
cities that captured your curiosity?
KL: ...I'm very curiosity about the whole
society. I mean how could you not be when it's about
to plunge us into a massive catastrophic war. I mean
it's an endlessly intriguing society. But I'm not
sure I'm qualified to make films about it. It's
extraordinarily fascinating how it's controlled and
led in a certain direction. I think what's
fascinating about the States is the whole history
that is not recognized. I mean, the IWW, the
Wobblies, Joe Hill, Mother Jones, the Civil Rights
movement. The whole other America that is radical and
progressive and questioning. And that has become now
lead by the nose into the war. It's an extraordinary
process.
PRESS: What about the film
distribution?
KL: ...I think the problem we have is
exhibition. If British, and European, and world
cinema could have access to the screens then we'd
have a much more vibrant and diverse cinema. But the
point of the market is that it destroys choice. It
doesn't give you choice ... because of the tendency
towards monopoly. So what we need to do is not rely
on the market. Intervene. Establish cinemas which may
be owned by the municipality or whatever, but not
simply owned by the big chains...Cause there's a huge
range of films that we never see. The present system
does not work. The idea that at the multi-screens
--you'll have 5 screens showing the blockbuster.
PRESS: Have your audiences
changed?
KL: I think there is an appetite for films
that describe the world that we all experience.
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