At Press Day, I spoke with three principals of the
film, ironically in a Beverly Hills hotel hospitality
suite...
[Danny Devito] [Peter Facinelli] [John Swanbeck]
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(One member of the press joked that this
convocation's condiments were far superior to those
in the film.)
DD: "Better than a Cheeseball" (Danny
Concurred) that's gonna be my new line.
(On Kevin Spacey as producer)
DD: He calls me up on a
Friday night and says, "The part was written for
you." I say, "Oh yeah right - okay, just send me the
script." He goes, "I'll have someone walk it over
tonight ... you can tell me tomorrow." So now I begin
to smell a rat ... "When do you want to do this
movie?" He says, "Oh, we start Wednesday." I said,
"Oh, it was a part that was written for me, huh?"
(Laughs.) I says, "The next time I read a script with
a liein' bastard in it I'll send it to you!" (Laughs,
in thought) ... Next year Jersey's gonna make an epic
about the phone book and [Kev's] gonna star in it.
(Suddenly more serious.) No, we had a good time, it
was a good script, at the right time. If you
recognize that when it comes along, you gotta be open
to it ... you get gifts. This is a gift.
(On Peter Facinelli)
DD: We tossed him around, broke his chops.
A couple of workhorses and a new guy. (Laughs.)
(On Pulp Fiction)
DD: I was able to protect Quentin ...
because I was a final cut producer and there was no
way anyone was going to tamper with that script no
matter what.
RA: Thank You.
(On Collaboration)
DD: Everybody's free to talk and contribute
and put his or her two cents in. Whoever's setting up
the game should make that understood by everybody,
you don't want to turn anything away, somebody might
have a good idea.
RA: So what good ideas did
you have ... that they used?
DD: I don't really know.
RA: You don't know?
Press: Did you see
it?
DD: What?
Press: The movie?
DD: What movie? (Laughs all around.) Well,
I'm almost finished with the book so I don't want to
blow it. (More Laughs.)
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(On Devito and Spacey)
PF: To work with talented
actors makes my job easier. But at the same time I
was also fully aware that they're very powerful
people and I didn't want to get steam-rolled by them
and be a piece of furniture while it's the Kevin and
Danny show. They are such great inspirations to me as
not only actors [but] as human beings. Kevin's at the
top of his game, Danny's very talented. They could
have easily come in and been egotistical control
freaks. Kevin could have completely taken over ...
you know he's producing it as well. That's not how I
felt at all ... It was three actors. Names, egos,
everything aside, it was three actors and a director
working together collaboratively, and everyone's
opinions, voices, suggestions were valid and everyone
respected each other. We were exploring this piece
together, and learning from each other together.
That's another thing I love about them, they're not
afraid to learn and grow.
(On role models)
PF: If I could pick an actor to pattern my
career after it would be Paul Newman, salad dressing
and all.
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(On starting the project)
JS: Roger gave me the script in 1991 and I
sent it to Kevin with whom I'd had a long history as
one of his acting coaches. We had been looking for a
project to do together on Broadway ... [however]
Kevin said, "Look, this will make a great first small
movie to help launch my film company (Trigger
Street)."
(On getting advice as a first time director)
JS: She says,
"On a Clint Eastwood set, everyone is so cool because
Clint is so cool." So then I was really terrified
because now I've got to go in there and be like Clint
Eastwood. (Laughs.) But the point was well taken and
the next day I went to the crew and said, "Look I'll
make a deal with you. I'll be very clear and decisive
about the story we're telling and I will concentrate
on capturing that story with the actors and you guys
will be responsible for capturing it on film."
(On favorite films and women actors)
JS: "Pride and Prejudices," "Chinatown,"
"Godfather(s)" etc. ... I would love to work with
Susan Surandon sometime and Angelina Jolie. [However]
this is my feminist movie because, there's no women
in the movie. Larry's character has a line, "We're
like dinosaurs..." For me the story captures the way
men were used to relating to each other and the way
the world is now challenging them to relate with each
other and the old world, old boy network doesn't
really work anymore. There's much more honest
intimate connections that these guys are forced to
deal with and that's what we were going after.
(On religion)
JS: It's a part in Peter's character's life
and not what the picture's about. We don't play down
to religion and we don't use it in any self-serving,
manipulative way. Really it's a story of humanity. I
know a lot of very religious people who have seen
this film and loved it.
(On preparation etc.)
RA: Besides watching "12
Angry Men" and "Lifeboat" videos, what else did you
do to Prepare for this film?
JS: I think it was really key that I made a
short film before we shot "The Big Kahuna." We wrote,
directed and produced it. So going through the
process once was probably the smartest thing I'd
done. I had the story direction experience, but I
needed to learn the mechanics, I didn't want to show
up and spend 16 days learning who the script
supervisor was and what her job was.
RA: What happened to that
short?
JS: In the middle of editing, Kevin called
and said, "We're shooting in three weeks." So that
become our lives for two and a half years.
RA: Now that "The Kahuna" is
finished ... will you return to the short?
JS: Well we're thinking of re-shooting it
digitally, because we want to get our feet wet in the
digital world. Or maybe making it into a feature.
RA: Title?
JS: Marilyn.
RA: What was that one
precious thing you learned while working on the
short?
JS: It really taught me what the producer's
job is. So I knew I could make decisions as a
director to do a better job for Kevin. I knew what
was coming down the pike before they happened.
RA: What was the budget for
"The Kahuna"?
JS: 1.8 million - it was a passion
project.
RA: What film directors have
influenced your style?
JS: Mike Nicols and his improvisatory
background, he gets great multi-dimensional
performances from his actors by playing a scene in
different ways to see how it looks. Ang Lee of "Ice
Storm." Latest mentor is Kimberly Peirce of "Boys
Don't Cry." It was a grave injustice that she wasn't
nominated.
RA: The "Kahuna's" writer,
Roger Rueff, was he on your set?
JS: We've known each other a number of
years, I knew what he wanted from the script. I
thought movies are an image medium, but working more
internally, we were allowed to use the faces of the
actors as our landscapes and the special effects
would be the emotions in their eyes. Roger was, in
fact, not on the set, and that was a request I made
of him. I know actors when they're working on
material they love and then the writer shows up ...
it brings an element of consciousness to the work
that I like to keep out of the process. So Roger was
only too glad to not get in the way of what these
actors were doing. But I'd call him every day, and
play the audio tapes over the phone to him.
RA: What appears in the film
that is purely new that was not in the
script?
JS: A little improvisation, but they were
very intent on getting Roger's words down, because
they're all actors that admire a good script. Danny
would be up till 3AM memorizing his lines.
RA: If you were given a huge
budget, what kind of film would you make?
JS: I'd like to tell a story without
dialogue, not to say I want to make a silent movie.
Actually, that's what I tried to do with "The Big
Kahuna." I know the film was wall to wall dialogue.
But we should really think as though we were telling
a story without words. So that the movie works on two
levels, there's the brilliant dialogue and then the
emotional under level. The non-verbal fascinates
me.
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