Astronaut Susan Helms and DP James Neihouse sit
uncomfortably waiting for me to set up my recorder.
It's 30 minutes before the official start of the
premier events at the California Science Center and
I'm their first interview. Susan in a blue Nasa
jumpsuit accented by her blue eyes and contrasted
strongly by her red wavy hair, speaks carefully and
sharply, yet personally. In fact, I think the
production would have benefited were she the
narrator. Jim is well dressed and ready with a good
sense of humor.
RA: The hair ... was that a
problem?
SH: (big laugh) Well how do you think it
looked? (laughs again). I basically had long curly
hair for many years, but in space it is incredibly
difficult to take care of it when it's long. So I
decided that for the space station flight where I'd
be away from a shower for months I decided to cut it
off. In the IMAX film it's actually a short hair cut,
I know it doesn't look like it because it's all
puffed out from the fact that I'm without gravity.
But if it would have been long, it would have been
very ugly.
RA: Any tips for the hair
conscious ... once we all move into space, that
is?
SH: I would recommend people keep their
hair short instead of long because it gets in the
way.
RA: I liked the underwater
sequence in the film where you're practicing for zero
gravity. How closely related is it to real zero
gravity? What differences are there to the real
deal?
SH: There's one major difference. The suit
itself is buoyant in the water, but you are not
buoyant in the suit. In other words when you are
upright in the water your feet are actually standing
on the inside of the boots in the water. Now in
space, you don't. You are floating in the suit and
the suit itself is floating without the effect of
gravity. SO that is the major difference. There is
another difference worth mentioning, when you move in
the water you feel the resistance... the drag of the
water on your body. In space there is no drag on your
body. So there's a little bit of difference in your
motion when you get up in the space walk for
real.
RA: Those differences are
easy to get over or no?
SH: Well, the best approach is to move
slow. You always move quicker if you move slower. If
that makes any sense. You just take your time and
don't try to rush things. If you try to rush things
you inevitably get behind.
RA: I read that you have the
world record for EVA - nearly 9 hours. What is
EVA?
SH: 8 hours 56 minutes, that right. Oh,
that's a space walk. NASA lingo for space walk -
extra-vehicular-activity.
RA: So you have the record,
anyone else close?
SH: Jim, my buddy. Every time you space
walk you space walk with a buddy. And Jim Voss, who
is not only my space-walking buddy, but he also
happens to be my crew buddy in the film with the
mission that we were on. We were on ISS together for
almost 6 months and we also happen to do the space
walk together. So we both have the record, cause we
always were working as a team.
RA: For those of us who would
love to be in space ... what's it like?
SH: Well, the best I can tell you is that
IMAX films come the closest to giving you a sense of
what it's like. If you're watching television you can
see what the astronauts are seeing, but you don't get
a sense of actually being a part of it. The IMAX is
the closest thing to becoming part of that, that you
can experience here on Earth. In fact, when I got
into space for the very first time, and I floated up
to the window and looked out at the Earth, the first
thing I said to my crew mate was 'ohmygosh, it is
just like an IMAX film!'
RA: Fit handsome men,
confined space, several months ... did you ever play
spin the bottle to infinity?
SH: (laughs) You wouldn't believe how
unglamorous space is in that respect. Trust me, it's
no senior prom (laughs again).
RA: What interesting things
about being up there don't appear on the
film?
SH: Well it's impossible to capture
everything that we did on the film. I mean I think we
shot a total of 12 miles of film... each shot was
only about a 30 sec burst. So if you look at 5.5
months, there's just no way to possibly capture
everything we did up there. A lot of what isn't in
the film is some of the more mundane stuff like
working with the computer networks and the exercise
we did everyday. I mean, just running on the
treadmill for an hour and half everyday ... the film
doesn't capture that that's really what you're doing.
The monotony of running on the treadmill.
RA: Biggest
hardships?
SH: I'm sure most people would say, 'being
away from your family.' We do have email and the
ability to have several video con's over a period of
several months, but people are not with their
families and that is the one thing that they
missed.
JN: Susan's biggest problem was leaving ...
they had to drag her out.
SH: I wanted to see them, but I wasn't
quite ready to leave.
RA: What's the scariest
part?
SH: Worrying about screwing something up.
Thousands of people have worked to make these moments
happen and the astronaut is on the hook to make sure
that they come off smoothly, and so the astronauts
are always worried about making mistakes.
RA: So how do you handle the
pressure?
SH: Well a good crew will back each other
up. Everybody will double-check everybody else.
That's something that's inbred in you in the training
process.
RA: What's the most amazing
thing to you about the ISS in terms of how it will
advance the program?
SH: The most amazing thing is these
cultures working together and pulling it off. The
Russians with the Americans working with the
Canadians working with the Europeans and then the
Japanese ... the fact that all these different
cultures are coming together to a single object and
that it's actually working well is probably the
biggest feat of all.
RA: How is the space program
more advanced that it was before?
SH: Now we have the ability to do long term
science in orbit without gravity at least on the
American side. The Russians have had this capability
because they've had space stations for decades. The
Americans really haven't had a space station for this
long a time period. You're not gonna be able to
figure out how humans can live in space for a long
time without the ability to do this research on the
space station. Therefore, this whole program ends up
giving the international community a brand new world
class laboratory in order to do these investigations
so that we can take the next step of going out there
and traveling elsewhere than planet Earth.
RA: What moments stand out as
the most tense in your career?
SH: Maybe it's this interview (laughs) I'm
kidding. Hmmm... I guess interviewing to be an
astronaut is pretty intense. There, your career is
sort of in somebody else's hands... and that waiting
was pretty tense.
RA: I can imagine there'd be
plenty of applicants.
SH: Usually about 3000 applicants for 20
slots.
RA: Who's the best actor in
the film?
JN: There's no best actors... they're all
up there doing their jobs. I mean, this is a
documentary film, this is not a dramatic production.
We're filming these guys doing this record-breaking,
groundbreaking things in space.
RA: Susan, did you do any
filming?
SH: Before the flight we only had time for
one person out of the three of us and that one person
was Jim Voss. However, Jim did train Yuri and I on
orbit on how to run the camera for some of the scenes
so that Jim could be in front of the camera. And so
yeah, I did hold the camera and push the button and
roll film a couple of times. But Jim actually did all
the lighting, did the calculations on what was
required of the camera and the scenery and did the
directing and told us what to do and Yuri and I
pretty much followed his direction. So Jim was really
the on-scene producer and director of our part of the
film. And of course, there are lots of crews doing
this, there wasn't just the three of us. How many
crews?
JN: 7 shuttle crews and then 2 expedition
crews.
SH: So you actually have 25 astronauts that
have some training on the camera.
RA: Well that makes a great
segue to James over here ... Do astronauts make
better cameramen?
JN: (Chuckles) They make very good
cameramen. I've been surprised. I mean, I'm one of
the few cameramen in the world that trains his
replacement. But, they do a great job for
the limited amount of time that we're allowed to work
with them. They pick it up quickly, the thing is,
they're dedicated to the project and they show it
with what they bring back on film.
RA: How many hours would you
say it took to train one astronaut?
JN: We typically get 30 hours training
time. I get 30 hours to teach them what I've taken 27
hours to learn.
RA: Did you direct
then?
JN: Toni Myers and I get a directing credit
... it's not as big as hers. We worked together in
developing scenes along with the crew members. They
would send back things that we didn't ask for and a
lot of times it was better than what we wanted.
That's why it says, 'filmed in space by astronauts'
in the beginning of the film.
RA: Was there any kind of
piggyback video that you could see what they were
filming while they were filming it?
JN: No, we couldn't see what they were
doing. They'd call us if they had any problems.
SH: Jim had conferences with you guys
often. And another thing we had to do was protect the
film against radiation. Cause while we're on the
station we have a higher exposure level of radiation
and that could ruin the film. So Jim came up with
this clever idea of surrounding the exposed film with
bags of water. Because water is a natural radiation
protector. And then we'd have to wait for a shuttle
to arrive to come bring the film back to earth. In
the meantime, during those weeks of waiting, Jim
would protect this film from damage by putting it in
a water closet.
JN: Like a mother hen protecting her egg
(laughs). We're always sitting down at mission
control watching the progress of the flight.
Occasionally with the cargo bay camera we can tell
with telemetry of the shuttle when it's running. So
we'll see the shot come up, but we won't see the
telemetry indicate a run on our camera...and we're
shouting "Okay shoot now Shoot now! ... Remember us!"
We were all rooting and then when the camera finally
starts, we all go, "Yay!!"
RA: What kind of delay is
there between communication to the station?
JN: There's quite a delay. Those signals
bounce around.
SH: 6 seconds.
RA: exterior shots?
JN: Susan was involved with the exterior on
the I.C.B.C., which is the cargo bay camera.
SH: We called it the icky bicky.
JN: See at NASA you get points for an
acronym, but if you get an acronym that you can turn
into a word. ... you get extra points (chuckles).
Actually the exteriors were a lot easier than the
interiors. The camera in the cargo bay had a video
camera looking through it so they could see what they
were shooting. It was run by an IBM computer.
RA: All those exteriors were
shot from the cargo bay?
JN: There was some exterior shots that you
all shot through the window.
SH: Yeah through the window, a lot of those
space walking faces, they look like they're waving at
the camera -- those were shot by Jim through the
window.
RA: And how big was that
window.
SH: About that big (shows with hands -
about 1.5 foot diameter.)
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