RA: Previously you felt it
was important to have tragedy in a film in order to
have depth, but did this film convert you?
CHEN: I made myself a very happy husband
and father of the family and I really enjoy my life.
I discovered something I haven't seen before. I used
to be very nervous because I did big films. I didn't
really have a chance to look up and see how blue the
sky could be, how beautiful the flowers could be when
I look down. But now I'm a little bit changed. This
change is very good for me. I'm not saying that this
film is sort of a cheap happy ending or something.
The father and son deserve to be together ... The
other thing I want to say is that the Chinese people
eventually learn how to be happy because the darkness
of the history too many miserable things happened in
the last hundred years of history in china that we
almost forgot how to be happy and what the things are
that can make us happy. But now along with the
reform... or whatever it is called, the huge progress
that the Chinese people have made in the last 20
years... we return to normal. We're more happier than
before. So you can see that from this movie.
PRESS: Where did you get the
idea for the film?
CHEN: I always try to discover something
from real life. Life is something that can always
inspire me. I saw a TV program in which the father
and son almost like you see the movie, came from
another province, survived in Beijing. The father was
always proud of his son, saying my son is going to be
number one in the world as a violin player. That
story ended up with a sort of tragedy where the boy
doesn't want to continue. The boy wants to turn
himself into a businessman. I was very moved when I
watched the TV program. I realized that this is
reality. It's not changeable. You can't do anything
about that. The father had a tear in his eyes.
There's nothing more that he can do about it. That's
the very beginning of the process, but we want to
develop a completely different story -- so now the
movie is here.
PRESS: Being in the city and
successful is not equal to being happy?
CHEN: Because our traditional cultural
value has been sort of destroyed for one reason or
the other... either in the political campaign or in
peaceful time. And we now believe in... We used to
believe in idealism, and now we believe in
materialism, for sure. All the people are seeking
success and money. Fame and fortune is the goal for
almost everyone in China. That's good and it's bad.
The good news is at least we're out of the shadow of
the fake socialism and now we are just looking
forward to something that is unknown future. It's a
very very tricky moment for many Chinese people.
PRESS: And so Communism is
dead?
CHEN: I'm not so sure it's a very good idea
to pay a very high price to make yourself successful.
You may lose a lot of things that you valued. I think
that's the question I ask in this movie. What you
really like to have -- that's your very personal
choice...
PRESS: Where are you between
art and commerce in your own career?
CHEN: That is the question. I am sometimes
facing the same problem that the characters are
facing in this movie. I don't know. I try to make a
balance for myself. On the one hand, I strongly
believe that filmmaking is my life. I want to
continue to make a film and express myself, to tell
people what I feel about this world. On the other
hand, I realize that I need to make money to support
a family. But not much! Not make it as like a
billionaire or something. I think we live a very
comfortable life because of our family background. We
all know that we never want to have a luxury life, a
Rolls Royce that kind of thing.
PRESS: Whenever I see your
film I can't stop crying ... what's your
secret?
CHEN: The answer is very simple. Because I
have a very very close relationship, Hong is my wife,
the guy who played the father, the guy who played the
first professor are all very good friends of mine. I
talked to them like a friend. I say that "Yes, this
is a movie, this is a story that is being created by
ourself. It's not real life; it's not documentary. On
the other hand, I want everything to be real. We need
to create those small details that can improve the
whole quality of the movie. For example, Hong made a
contribution. She used the small details to establish
the relationship between the characters. The example
is that when we were on the set ready to shoot the
scene with the boy and first professor having a big
fight. The next day when the boy was there again,
then the Prof. was ready to talk about his own
personal story about his past and all. I wasn't
convinced as to why this Prof. could do such kind of
things, tell the boy this story. I think I need
something very strong, but subtle. Then Hong just
say, "Why don't we just do one more shot, in which
the Prof. ask the boy to find something under the bed
-- then he finds a photo. The next day he comes back
and without saying anything, you just put the frame
on top of the piano. That's the beginning of the
relationship. That's very convincing that the Prof.
is able to tell the story to the boy." These small
details...
RA: One reviewer I screened
the film with suggested that you may have hinted that
the first Prof. and the girl in the photo may have
been the boy's birth parents...
CHEN: (Laughs.) Someone mentioned that to
me before. No, we didn't do that intentionally.
(Chuckles again.)
PRESS: Was it difficult
working with your wife?
CHEN: There's no difficulty as well. Quite
honestly. We got along as husband and wife and also
as co-workers. We enjoyed being together to shoot
this movie. She's been very supportive as a producer
as well. Yeah, many people ask me this question.
Probably they expect us to have a huge serious fight.
No, never happened. She can be very tough, but she
was okay. She was fine.
PRESS: Hong ... what do you
say about that?
HONG: (Translated from Mandarin.) First of
all, he's very demanding from the actors. But that's
why many actors like to work with him. After the
experience I discovered that I could do so well as an
actor.
PRESS: How difficult is it to
make a film in China these days? Financially and
especially after you criticize the system?
CHEN: Actually, it really depends on who
you are and what project you want to do. If you're
new filmmakers, it could be very difficult
financially and they have to pick their project very
carefully. But for me, I'm very lucky, because I have
support from film people. Yes we still have
censorship. I argue with them, but this is what it
is. We have to deal with this all the time. We have
to submit the screenplay to the film bureau, we need
the screen after the film is made to those Gov.
officials. But we're used to this. What can you do? I
think that with more conversation with those
officials-- I guess what they want is to be
respected. If you come and say nice things then maybe
you get what you want.
PRESS: Talk about
Lesley.
CHEN: My wife and I where in Hong Kong
before the New Year, we tried to find him by making
several phone calls, eventually we were told he
wasn't in a very good mood. Sort of depressed. I
don't know why. Somebody said that he was haunted by
the ghost of the last film. I'm not so sure it's
right. We were in Beijing when our friend calls from
Hong Kong. ... We were very very shocked we didn't
want to believe this was true. Because we did want
him to play a part in our next project. How sad it
is. I wrote an article to give to the Chinese film
magazine. He was just like that... very emotional.
Very sensitive. The first reaction from me was that
he really turned himself into the character that he
played in "Farewell My Concubine."
PRESS: Talk about the
backdrop of the film.
CHEN: That's the other thing that I want to
do with this picture to show the real change taking
place in China. Some change for good, some change for
worse. I don't want to be lost again like politically
in the past. Because I think the people now, most of
them, the Chinese people, live in fear that they'll
lose their opportunity to make themselves
millionaires. It's an economic fear.
RA: Why did you choose to
play the affluent professor?
CHEN: I didn't want to act, I was too busy.
But, I didn't want to wait. Wasting time, my casting
director traveling China trying to find the right
one, but we failed to find a good one. So I was told
by another director who was my friend, that I was
tough enough to play this part. Because he saw how I
worked with my actors on set. .... I think I can be a
very good one (violin professor).
PRESS: How much was your
personal experience useful to the movie?
CHEN: Everything's personal. If I didn't
know that much about relationship between father and
son, I don't think I could do this movie.
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